Wednesday, January 7, 2009

moving along, one conundrum at a time


after a good holiday break, i got back to work on monday. the side assemblies are all done as of today. i saw the pattern for the cutouts in kitchen cabinets in the fisher household from hbo's six feet under. i liked the pattern, so i thought i would use it here. i checked out other options, but this one still came out on top. it was a fun little detail to do. didn't take long, but it adds a lot of character to the sides. i'm going to have a panel in between the front rails, and i'm going to have the same detail on the horizontal up front. i've yet to decide if it's going to be a whole piece or if i'm going to break it up into three, to further echo the sides.



now here's the conundrum, how do i support the back... i'm going to have four vertical supports topped off with a long horizontal rail running along the top of all four verticals. the two verticals on the ends are no problem, i'm going to have a bird's mouth style joint at the bottom with a dowel running into the top of the rail, and a horizontal pin through the bird's mouth. i'm not worried about the end ones because i'm going to notch the arm rest to accept the back support, and i can also pin into the leg. those two won't move, but i'm worried about the other two. most members of my family are of the large sort (this is going to an uncle's house), and i'm thinking that this is not going to be enough to support three of me. so, what's the solution? i was thinking of adding a metal plate on the front of the vertical that would go from that piece into the rail. a kind of strap. i think this would hold even me. what do you folks think?

12 comments:

LORD GODFREY said...

I'm going to re read your post again as I am not sure I fully understand. Again I am a dumb ass.

I assumed you could make the back something like this and it would hold wouldn't it?

http://www.visiondecor.net/ebay/4838.jpg

Or are you trying to avoid tonnes of verticals? Maybe fan them them from the center to math your side motif. Maybe you don't want to go with this. Write back and let me know.

jbreau said...

the thing that's different between that thing and mine, is that my bottom slats and back slats are not connected in the same way. the photo you sent has the back and bottom in such a way that the force applied against the top of the back gets distributed to the bottom assembly. for me, the whole thing goes into the back rail. anyhow, i think i've got it down with some metal straps on the two middle vertical post. i'm also going to have some vertical slats in between the post, but i don't see how they add that much strength. anyhow, furniture is hard to explain over the interweb. good luck with your suits... so does this mean that you are done with construction? are you still at school on saturday?

LORD GODFREY said...
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LORD GODFREY said...

Hey Jacques, give me a call when you can so we can discuss this. The metal strap idea sounds like it will fully work.

The one I sent looks like the stresses terminate at the bolts though. I figured the bottom assembly was redundant after these.

Again I am so stoned all the time, I can't visualize things over the interweb.

Nick Brygidyr said...

sssweeet!
I love that detail on the side there.

Oh and i checked the tracking info of the router bit i sent you...be home next time! haha

jbreau said...

we were home, they just didn't knock loud enough. which is surprising, because i've had them walk right in. it got picked up that same afternoon. i'll try and get to that today, maybe i'll go do it right now... i thought you lived in montreal? did you get your mom to mail it in for you?

Nick Brygidyr said...

yeah while i was away i didnt get a chance to send it myself, how manly, my mom sent my router bit to you haha

jbreau said...

i got it done this morning. it's small radius, just like you wanted. do you have a diamond stone? where do you want me to send it? to your mama's house?

Nick Brygidyr said...

diamond stone no...water stone yes.Yep, since that's my address too!

am i gonna have to hone this sucker now?

jbreau said...

no you won't have to hone it, it'll work just fine. i'll send it out on monday.

Nick Brygidyr said...

awesome! thanks buddy!

Nick Brygidyr said...

Hey! Got the bit today, didnt get a chance to use it yet but it looks great and i cant thank you enough!

depending how far ahead with the frame i get tomorrow, i should be able to give the bit a run =)